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Trump on Russia-Ukraine War: 'It's Gotta Stop'

Trump on Russia-Ukraine War: 'It's Gotta Stop'

Above: US Pres.-elect Donald Trump speaks at the America First Policy Institute Gala held at Mar-a-Lago on Nov. 14, 2024 in Palm Beach, Florida. Image copyright: Joe Raedle/Staff/Getty Images News via Getty Images

The Facts

  • Addressing the nearly three-year-old Russia-Ukraine war in his first major speech since winning the election on Nov. 5, US Pres.-elect Donald Trump told an audience in Palm Beach, Florida, that "It's gotta stop."

  • The black-tie gala at Mar-a-Lago on Thursday evening, held alongside the America First Policy Institute, included lighter moments — including a quip about the recurring presence of Elon Musk. "You know, he likes this place. I can't get him out of here," Trump said.

  • Trump also addressed the reality that Republicans swept the White House, the House of Representatives, and the Senate. "In my first term, they said 'he won the election,' but they always followed by 'he didn’t win the popular vote,'" Trump said. "Nobody can say that anymore about us."


The Spin

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